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Wales is not a principality

Wales is not a principality.
It is the media that continue with this lie to try to discredit the country that is Wales.
Wales is even officially recognized as a country world over   but the media of the uk insist on continuing calling Wales a principality .
from wiki ."The Principality of Wales (Welsh: Tywysogaeth Cymru) existed between 1216 and 1536, encompassing two-thirds of modern Wales during its height between 1267–1277. For most of its history it was "annexed and united" to the English Crown. However, for a few generations, specifically the period from its foundation in 1216 to Edward I's completion of the conquest of Wales in 1284, it was de facto independent under a Welsh Prince of Wales"  Even this international body recognize Wales as a country so why on earth cant the people of the uk?

I challenge anyone to show me proof that wales is officially a principality. No ceremonial rubbish from the house of Windsor that is worthless to all but the deluded,  who think the royals still have any relevance and power .

The fact is wales is NOT a principality and its time the media and people of the uk give the country the respect it deserves.

Bellow is an article off wales online

We've got our own rugby and football teams, a National Library, an anthem, a language and, since 1999, our own National Assembly.

Surely then, Wales’ status as a country in its own right has never been in doubt in modern times. Not quite. Until now, an influential worldwide body has refused to accord Wales country status, classifying it instead as a principality.

Do not despair, however. Because an intervention by Plaid Cymru AM Leanne Wood has ensured that Wales has at last been granted the status the rest of us assumed it already had.

The South Wales Central AM successfully lobbied for Wales to be given recognition as a country after it was pointed out to her that an influential newsletter for the international community referred to Wales as a principality.

Ms Wood said: “I hope this once and for all puts an end to the debate on whether Wales is a country or a principality.

“Wales is a country and has been for a long time. Now that we have proper lawmaking powers for our legislature, I think it is time we consigned any references of Wales being a principality to the rubbish bin. To some people this matter may seem inconsequential but there is a lot of misunderstanding and ignorance about Wales, especially outside of Europe. Inaccuracies like the one printed in the last edition of the ISO Newsletter, no matter how esoteric the publication is, can engender a false impression of Wales and fuel ignorance.

“Furthermore, given that this document was circulated to a key council of the United Nations, it had the potential to damage our reputation on an international stage among a select band of very influential people.

“I hope this message will be received loud and clear by Cheryl Gillan, the Secretary of State for Wales, as she has, in the past, referred to Wales as being ‘both a principality and a country’, as has David Cameron.”

The amendment could be made in time for the publication of the next edition of the newsletter by the International Standards Organisation (ISO), which describes itself as the world’s largest developer and publisher of International Standards and a network of the national standards institutes of 162 countries.

Dai Barnaby, a constituent of Ms Wood from Llantrisant, first alerted her to the error last year.

Since then, the AM has written to the Counsel General, the First Minister, the ISO and the British Standards Institute (BSI), which is responsible for supplying information to the ISO, in order to get the anachronistic description of Wales updated.

Why won’t the term principality do for Wales?

Well, strictly speaking it refers to a sovereign state whose ruling monarch is a prince or a princess with an executive role in administration.

And since the Prince of Wales has no role in administrative control over Wales, not having had any for centuries, the term is archaic in constitutional terms.

The offending ISO newsletter said the United Kingdom consisted of two countries, England and Scotland, with Northern Ireland described as a province and Wales a principality.

In a letter to Ms Wood, the chairman of the BSI, Paul Woodman, said: “The ISO entry originated in a traditional understanding of the status of Wales as given in reference works such as the 1976 Oxford Illustrated Dictionary.

“Earlier this year we were alerted by the Welsh Government to the fact that the notion of Wales as a principality is now outdated, and that Wales should properly be considered a country.

“Having subsequently received an official statement to this effect from that Government, I wrote on behalf of BSI to the ISO Secretariat in Geneva to request that a change be made from principality to country at the first available opportunity.”

After contacting the First Minister’s office, Ms Wood also secured a commitment from Carwyn Jones to “continue to liaise with the ISO to confirm that the change of status for Wales from principality to country is included within the next edition of the newsletter”.

Mr Barnaby, who is an editor on the internet encyclopaedia Wikipedia in his spare time, campaigned to get the status changed after getting dragged into long and drawn-out debates about Wales’ status with fellow editors.

He said: “Describing Wales as a principality has no modern geographical or constitutional basis and is contrary to the views of the Welsh Government, academics, commentators, historians and the Welsh population.

“The Principality of Wales existed only between 1216 and 1542 and its area was significantly different to that of modern Wales.

“I was also concerned that describing Wales as a principality may lead people to believe that the Prince of Wales may have some constitutional role in Wales, or that Wales’ status could be considered to be less than that of the countries of Scotland or England.”


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